tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3407547817731551597.post6088076994648887681..comments2024-02-20T08:22:02.912-08:00Comments on My Newfoundland Kayak Experience: Kayak policeTonyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03811529922250366230noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3407547817731551597.post-21756403051739765322010-08-12T09:40:55.217-07:002010-08-12T09:40:55.217-07:00It isn't hard at all. Tell them they are paddl...It isn't hard at all. Tell them they are paddling unsafely and why. Until they know they are vulnerable, they aren't making an informed choice. The idea of "kayak police" is not relevant. All you're doing is giving them valuable information; they then decide.<br /><br />BigglesUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12333728505617581685noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3407547817731551597.post-31124585823688735452010-08-12T03:31:55.299-07:002010-08-12T03:31:55.299-07:00Thanks for your comments guys. Some people will be...Thanks for your comments guys. Some people will be more receptive to a safety message, it all depends I suppose on the manner of delivery. Even so, a holier-than-thou attitude won't cut it with anyone.<br /><br />Tony :-)Tonyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03811529922250366230noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3407547817731551597.post-44563373988781994382010-08-11T23:05:54.607-07:002010-08-11T23:05:54.607-07:00A hard question. I can also be a kayak police from...A hard question. I can also be a kayak police from time to time but has calmed down somewhat in recent years.<br /><br />regards<br /><br />Peter<br />http://kayakr.net/Ehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18020322268916624545noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3407547817731551597.post-23024363723967161352010-08-11T17:53:33.383-07:002010-08-11T17:53:33.383-07:00I've done a few paddles this summer in temps i...I've done a few paddles this summer in temps in the mid 20c range. I had on my drysuit and was, in no way, uncomfortable. If I did get a bit warm, I'd just do a quick roll or scull. Plus the inside of the boat is always cool because of its contact with the cold water.<br /><br />Our water temps, I'm guessing right now are in the low teens (C) or law 50's (F) According to a hypothermia chart I found, those water temps give you about an hour before you're unconscious. I've seen our water and wind turn on us with a vengeance. When it does, I want to be as prepared as I can be - and that means thermal protection.<br /><br />On Sunday, if either one of these novice paddlers fell out of their boats, the wind would have taken it like a leaf and blown it to Ireland. If they were in the middle of the bay, then they'd be in deep doodoo because they would not make it shore.<br /><br />It's unfortunate that the less skilled paddlers are the ones who really need the drysuits this time of year but few will actually be wearing them. I could get away without wearing my suit but the protection and insurance it affords is well worth it!!!<br /><br />SeanSean Dawehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00083182073195315693noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3407547817731551597.post-47587474192559160332010-08-11T13:01:12.412-07:002010-08-11T13:01:12.412-07:00and when I teach in Alaska, neither I, nor my stud...and when I teach in Alaska, neither I, nor my students wear dry suits. We teach them how to manage cold water and what to do after something like that occurs. But I dont think there is anything wrong - or shouldn't be anything wrong, I think most would disagree with me - with saying to someone who is clearly out of their element, 'hey are you aware of the dangers here'Adventure Otakuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12215628711923335166noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3407547817731551597.post-79749157456438692292010-08-11T12:46:56.023-07:002010-08-11T12:46:56.023-07:00I was rolling around in Newfoundland a few weeks a...I was rolling around in Newfoundland a few weeks ago. Without my dry suit. It's a common sense thing. I dont think anyone needs Saftey preachers. To each their own. I know Ipaddled a good many with my drysuit in Newfoundland a few weeks back...but I paddled some without.Leehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02003408787689426511noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3407547817731551597.post-89462432056517732682010-08-11T07:45:10.929-07:002010-08-11T07:45:10.929-07:00that is a tough call. When I was climbing a lot it...that is a tough call. When I was climbing a lot it was perfectly reasonable to walk up to someone you didn't know and check their knot. If it didn't look right, you should be sure it's okay. I don't feel the same way about kayakers. I feel that people tend to view that exactly as you describe it, the kayak police - and what gives you the right. It should be perfectly acceptable, but it's not. And it is an attitude that we should all help to achieve. First, making it socially acceptable for more experienced paddlers to give advice to newer paddlers, and secondly, that people need to seek out instruction and learn what safety really is. <br /><br />When people kayak with me and ask if they have to wear a pfd, I say only if you want to get on the water.Adventure Otakuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12215628711923335166noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3407547817731551597.post-36047031337426250842010-08-11T05:39:48.364-07:002010-08-11T05:39:48.364-07:00I asked myself that very same question many times ...I asked myself that very same question many times after we left those two!! What gives us the right to preach to others about safety? Still, how crappy would we feel if something happened to them? I kept my eyes and ears to the news for the rest of the day waiting to hear of, yet another, kayaking mishap. Thankfully, it do not happen - this time!!Sean Dawehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00083182073195315693noreply@blogger.com